Oh hell nooooooo!!!
This is one of the most important steps ever. A still developing child should in no way be held accountable to make such decision. HELL NOOOOOO!!!
SL
so i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.
yesterday i went for the co's last talks.
older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.
Oh hell nooooooo!!!
This is one of the most important steps ever. A still developing child should in no way be held accountable to make such decision. HELL NOOOOOO!!!
SL
ok, i didnt think anything about it.
but last night some friends from across the city called me up and said that the co was visiting their hall and in his talk he said that the society is getting geared up for a massive kingdom hall and assembly hall construction project worldwide next year.
they told the publishers; "get ready".
The money is sorely needed for lawsuit settlements worldwide.
SL
hi... i am new and after nearly 20 years after being disassociated at 15 i would like to make contact with others who have similar difficulties.
my mother was disfellowshipped shortly after my rebellion and had all ties with both her mother and brother cut and that remains the case.. just really hacked off with not being able to put things in the proper place in my life after all these years.
for the record i don't know if i believe in god but am searching for some peace as i seem to self destruct on a regular basis.. any ideas anyone?.
Welcome.
SL
i don't know what to do.... i married last year and things have been very rocky.
we dated for 4 years and did have normal issues but always had a lingering doubt something was just not right in our relationship-behavior to be more specific, he is not a jw, but i am.
yes i know i married outside the "lord" but after my first marriage to a jw ended in divorce for physical abuse, i was glad i didn't married another jw.
JW or not, you attract the wrong men. Leave now, go on therapy to find out why you are attracted to losers.
Be totally selfish about this or you will be miserable enough to have it end in divorce later on.
Leave. Leave now.
SL
pdf .
this issue contains the study articles for february 29 to april 3, 2016.. what about the number of those partaking at the memorial?12, 13. why should we not worry about the number of those who eat the bread and drink the wine at the memorial?12 in recent years, we have seen an increase in the number of those partaking at the memorial of christs death.
that trend contrasts with the decrease in the number of partakers that we saw for many decades.
All the ones I have known that part take of the emblems are down right NUTS, looney bin candidates for sure.
SL
we talk a lot about most jws being uneducated, uninformed, and that they lack critical thinking skills, but in my area there is a lot of jws that went to the university, medical school, law school, and came back to the organization.
in my circuit, that i know of, we had two electrical engineers, one computer engineer with a ph.d. eight teachers with a bachelors degree and three of those with a masters in education.
we had two medical doctors, one was a pediatrician who closed his business about 3 years ago and went to bethel.
In my Spanish cong, all youngsters already graduated are going to college, online or otherwise.
It is great to know the parents have enough sense to encourage education. It is surprising the increasing numbers of JWs that are not buying into the WTBTS bs anymore.
SL
i just watched the sample meeting corresponding to the new release of "our christian life and ministry" and i have a few lingering thoughts.
1- meeting layout simplified to match level of publishers.
when i grew up in the watchtower, the only real positive takeaway i have is being forced from a very young age to have the skill for public speaking, this has directly helped me with my confidence and gave me a skillset that is valuable in my current job.
It is more complicated. I hate it! The damn meeting is still almost 2 hrs long; in the Spanish cong, where time is not observed very well, it will for sure last 2 damn hrs.
Damn the mid-week meeting!
SL
long time lurker here.
i'm a fifth gen born-in baptized jw.
to say i've been struggling with doubts is an understatement.
Hi!!!
Oh my, we are in similar situations. My hubby is as hardcore as JWs come; he also flips to crazy if I suggest anything remotely opposed to the Org.
My entire family is 3rd gen heavy into the Org. I am trapped, trapped trapped!
What saves me is that I have developed this detached persona since learning TTATT, so their guilt trips and much of their deranged reasoning have no effect on me.
The double life is very rough on the mind, though.
SL
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
Dropping off the Fri from the reg assy would be nice!
SL
yesterday i finally confronted my mom with my research about the wtbts being registered with the un as a ngo for ten years.she didn't get angry at all but she says she doesn't want to doubt the organization, i asked her if she realizes that if this is true what it means and she replied by saying she believes she has found the truth and that satan wants me to turn away from the organization.she also said that apostates make these very clever looking articles to lure us away.i told her that i avoided all apostate websites(which i did) and went straight to the un which confirmed it.i asked her to do her own research on the matter but she refuses to saying she is not going to live her life having doubts about the borg.
i don't think i can wake her up ,especially if she doesn't even want to think that the organization is not "god's earthly organization".. i was thinking that now that she knows about my doubts i can disassociate myself but as i only turned 18 this week and have nowhere to go if she kicks me out the house(my entire family are j-dubs) i don't know what to do to move forward from this point .do any of you have any advice for me ?
thanks in advance..
Keep your mouth shut until such time that you have a good plan to move out and live a good life outside of the Org.
SL